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Trouble shoot your paint problems
By Diane Krapil
DuPont Performance Coatings
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Blistering
Bubbles or pimples appear in the topcoat film,
application.
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What went wrong:
- Improper surface cleaning or preparation.
Tiny specs of dirt left on the surface can act
as a sponge and hold mosture. When the finish
is exposed to the sun (or abrupt changes in
atmospheric pressure), moisture expands and
pressure builds up. If the pressure is great
enough, blisters form.
- Wrong thinner or reducer. Use of a fast-dry
thinner or reducer, especially when the material
is sprayed too dry or at an excessive pressure.
Air or moisture can be trapped in the film.
- Excessive film thickness. Insufficient drying
time between coats or too heavy application
of the undercoats may trap solvents which escape
later and blister the color coat.
- Contamination of compressed air lines. Oil,
water or dirt in lines.
- When wet sanding polyester and applying topcoat
without enough time for the water to evaporate.
- Incompatibility of materials.
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Fix:
If damage is extensive and severe, paint must
be removed down to undercoat or metal, depending
on depth of blisters. Then refinish. In less
severe cases, blisters may be sanded out, resurfaced
and retopcoated.
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Next time:
- Thoroughly clean areas to be painted before
sanding. Be sure surface is completely dry before
applying either undercoats or topcoats. Don't
touch a cleaned area as the oils in your hands
will contaminate the surface.
- Select the thinner or reducer most suitable
for existing shop conditions.
- Allow proper drying time for undercoats and
topcoats. Be sure to let each coat flash before
applying the next.
- Drain and clean air pressure regulator daily
to remove trapped moisture and dirt. Air compressor
tank should also be drained daily.
- Clean substrate carefully.
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Bleeding
Original finish discoloring, or color seeping
through the new topcoat color.
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What went wrong:
- Reaction of pigments from the original finish
with solvents of the coat which has been applied
on top.
- Contamination - usually in the form of soluble
dyes or pigments on the older finish before
it was repainted. (This is especially true with
older shades of red.)
- Old finish not well sealed.
- Use of too much hardener in the polyester
putty.
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Fix:
Sand, isolate the original finish with sealer
and reapply the topcoat.
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Next time:
- Test old finish applying a coat of the color
on a small area if bleeding is likely to occur,
if so apply sealer.
- Use only to recommended quantity of hardener
when mixing the polyester putty.
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Boiling
Blisters on the paint surface caused by trapped
solvents in the topcoats or primer-surfacer, a
situation which is further aggravated by force
drying or uneven heating.
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What went wrong:
- Improper surface cleaning or preparation.
- Wrong thinner or reducer. (The use of fast-dry
thinner or reducer, especially when the material
is sprayed too dry or at excessive pressure,
can cause solvent popping by trapping air in
the film.) Thinner too cheap.
- Excessive film thickness. (Insufficient drying
time between coats and too heavy application
of the undercoats may trap solvents causing
popping of the color coat as they later escape.)
- Infrared facilities too close.
- Too low or too high air pressure.
- Baking was started too soon after application.
- Baking temperature too high.
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Fix:
If damage is extensive and severe, paint must
be removed down to undercoat or metal, depending
on depth of blisters; then refinish. In less
severe cases, sand out, resurface and retopcoat.
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Next time:
- Thoroughly clean all areas to be painted.
- Select the thinner or reducer that is suitable
for existing shop conditions.
- Don't pile on undercoats or topcoats. Allow
sufficient flash and drying time. Allow each
coat of primer-surfacer to flash off naturally
-- do not fan.
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Cracking
A series of deep cracks resembling mud cracks
in a dry pond. Often in the form of three-legged
stars and in no definite pattern, they are usually
in the color coat and sometimes the undercoat
as well.
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What went wrong:
- Excessive film thickness (Excessively thick
topcoats magnify normal stresses and strains
which can result in cracking even under normal
conditions.)
- Materials not uniformly mixed.
- Insufficient flash time.
- Incorrect use of additive.
- Surface to be applied is too hot or cold.
- Use of coats incompatible with each other.
- Omitting the activator when mixing a 2K product.
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Fix:
The affected areas must be sanded to a smooth
finish, or in extreme cases removed down to
the bare metal, and refinished.
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Next time:
- Don't pile on topcoats. Allow sufficient flash
and drying time between coats. Do not dry by
fanning with compressed air from the spray gun.
- Stir all pigmented undercoats and topcoats
thoroughly. Strain and, where necessary, add
Fish Eye eliminator to topcoats.
- Read and carefully follow label instructions.
(Additives not specifically designed for a color
coat may weaken the final paint film and make
it more sensitive to cracking.
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Dissolution
Metallic particles from the basecoat surface
in the clearcoat. If severe, the effect can alter
the tone and exagerate the metallic appearance.
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What went wrong:
- Tack rag was not used before applying the
clearcoat.
- Basecoat and clearcoat are incompatible.
- Clearcoat was applied with insufficient flash
off the basecoat, or was applied too wet.
- Air pressure was too high.
- Wrong thinner.
- A coat of basecoat was too dry when the next
was applied.
- Basecoat applied too dry.
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Fix:
Sanding and respray are necessary if the defect
is severe.
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Next time:
- Use tack rag if possible.
- Use recommended products only, with recommended
air pressure.
- Allow evaporation of the basecoat before applying
the clear.
- Use the technique that the process requires.
- Use recommended thinner.
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Dry
spray
Granular texture normally with no gloss at all.
This defect is normally limited to small areas.
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What went wrong:
- Incorrect viscosity.
- Wrong thinner/too cheap/too fast.
- Spraying too fast.
- Air pressure too high.
- Spray gun too far from surface while applying.
- Lack of thinner.
- Inadequate gun setting.
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Fix:
Allow the paint to dry and then sand. After
sanding and depending on the magnitude of the
defect respraying or polishing will be necessary.
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Next time:
- Use recommended thinner.
- Adjust gun sets, spray pattern, fluid feed.
- Use recommended air pressure.
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Fish
eyes
Small, crater-like opening in the finish after
it has been applied.
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What went wrong:
- Improper surface cleaning or preparation.
(Many waxes and polishes contain silicone, the
most common cause of fish eyes. Silicones adhere
firmly to the paint film and require extra effort
for their removal. Even small quantities in
sanding dust, rags, or from cars being polished
nearby can cause this failure.)
- Effects of the old finish or previous repair.
(Old finish or previous repair may contain excessive
amounts of silicone from additives used during
their application. Usually solvent wiping will
not remove embedded silicone.)
- Contamination of air lines, by water or oil.
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Fix:
After affected coat has set up, apply another
double coat of color containing the recommended
amount of Fish Eye Eliminator. In severe cases,
affected areas should be sanded down and refinished.
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Next time:
- Precautions should be taken to remove all
traces of silicone by thoroughly cleaning.
- Add Fish Eye Eliminator. (The use of Fish
Eye Eliminator is in no way a replacement for
good surface preparation.)
- Drain and clean air pressure regulator daily
to remove trapped moisture and dirt. Air compressor
tank should also be drained daily.
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Lifting
Surface distortion or shriveling, while the topcoat
is being applied or while drying.
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What went wrong:
- Use of incompatible materials. (Solvents in
new topcoat attack old surface which results
in a distorted or wrinkled effect.
- Insufficient flash time. (Lifting will occur
when the paint film is an alkyd enamel and is
only partially cured. The solvents from the
coat being applied cause localized swelling
or partial dissolving which later distorts final
surface.)
- Imperper dry. (When synthetic enamel type
undercoats are not thoroughly dry, topcoating
with lacquer can result in lifting.)
- Effect of old finish or previous repair. (Lacquer
applied over a fresh air-dry enamel finish will
cause lifting.)
- Improper surface cleaning or preparation.
(Use of enamel-type primer or sealer over an
original lacquer finish which is to be topcoated
with a lacquer will result in lifting due to
a sandwich effect.)
- Wrong thinner or reducer. (The use of lacquer
thinners in enamel increases the amount of substrate
swelling and distortion which can lead to lifting,
particularly when two-toning or re-coating.)
- Application of coats too heavily.
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Fix:
Remove finish from affected areas and refinish.
In very severe cases the whole paint system
has to be removed and the surface (bare metal)
refinished.
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Next time:
- Avoid incompatible materials such as a thinner
with enamel products, or incompatible sealers
and primers.
- Don't pile on topcoats. Allow sufficient flash
and dry time. Final topcoat should be applied
when the previous coat is still soluble or after
it has completely dried and is impervious to
topcoat solvents.
- Select thinner or reducer that is correct
for the finish applied and suitable for existing
shop conditions.
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Mottling
Occurs only in metallics when the flakes float
together to form spotty or striped appearance.
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What went wrong:
- Wrong thinner or reducer.
- Materials not uniformly mixed.
- Spraying too wet.
- Holding sray gun too close to work.
- Uneven spray pattern.
- Low shop temperature.
- The flash off the basecoat was too short before
the clearcoat was applied.
- Coat affected by wet or humid air/weather.
- Coat too heavy.
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Fix:
Allow color coat to set-up and apply a drier
double coat or two single coats, depending upon
which topcoat you are applying. If the defect
is only visible after the application of the
clear, dry the clear, sand it and reapply basecoat
and clearcoat.
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Next time:
- Select the thinner or reducer that is suitable
for existing shop conditions and mix properly.
(In cold, damp weather, use a faster-dry solvent.)
- Stir all pigmented topcoats - especially metallics
- thoroughly.
- Use proper gun adjustments, techniques, and
air pressure.
- Keep your spray gun clean (especially the
needle fluid tip and air cap) and in good working
condition.
- Do not spray the metallic basecoat too wet.
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Orange
peel
Uneven surface formation - much like that of
the skin of an orange - which results from poor
coalescence of atomized paint droplets. Paint
droplets dry out before they can flow out and
level smoothly together.
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What went wrong:
- Improper gun adjustment and techniques. (Too
little air pressure, wide fan patterns or spraying
at excessive gun distances causes droplets to
become too dry during their travel time to the
work surface and they remain as formed by gun
nozzle.)
- Extreme shop temperature. (When air temperature
is too high, droplets lose more solvent and
dry out before they can flow and level properly.)
- Improper dry. (Gun fanning before paint droplets
have a chance to flow together will cause orange
peel.)
- Improper flash or recoat time between coats.
(If first coats of enamel are allowed to become
too dry, solvent in the paint droplets of following
coats will be absorbed into the first coat before
proper flow is achieved.)
- Wrong thinner or reducer. (Under-diluted paint
or paint thinned with fast evaporating thinners
or reducers causes the atomized droplets to
become too dry before reaching the surface.)
Too high viscosity.
- Low shop temperature.Too little thinner or
reducer.
- Materials not uniformly mixed. (Many finishes
are formulated with components that aid coalescence.
If these are not properly mixed, orange peel
will result.)
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Fix:
Compounding may help - a mild polishing compound
for enamel, rubbing compound for lacquer. In
extreme cases, sand down to smooth surface and
refinish, using a slower evaporating thinner
or reducer at the correct air pressure.
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Next time:
- Use proper gun adjustments, techniques, and
air pressure.
- Schedule painting to avoid temperature and
humidity extremes. Select the thinner or reducer
that is suitable for existing conditions. (The
use of a slower evaporating thinner or reducer
will overcome this.)
- Allow sufficient flash and dry time. Do not
dry by fanning.
- Allow proper drying time for undercoats and
topcoats. (Not too long or not too short.)
- Select the thinner or reducer that is most
suitable for existing shop conditions to provide
good flow and leveling of the topcoat.
- Reduce to recommended viscosity with proper
thinner/reducer.
- Stir all pigmented undercoats and topcoats
thoroughly.
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Overspray
Areas with paint particles adhering to the surface
of the paint or not completely absorbed into the
paint, causing reduction of the gloss.
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What went wrong:
- Excessive air pressure.
- Poor masking.
- Wet finish sprayed with dry spray dust.
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Fix:
Polishing will solve the problem.
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Next time:
- Use recommended thinner.
- Mask carefully.
- Organize the sequence of application before
starting to prevent dry spray on wet areas.
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Peeling
Loss of adhesion between paint and substrate
(topcoat to primer and/or old finish, or primer
to metal). This defect is often noticed in the
body shop when removing the masking tape.
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What went wrong:
- Improper cleaning or preparation. (Failure
to remove sanding dust and other surface contaminants
will stop the finish coat from coming into proper
contact with the substrate.)
- Improper metal treatment. Metal conditioner
and/or wash primer was not used.
- Materials not uniformly mixed.
- Failure to use proper sealer.
- Paint film too thick.
- Dry application.
- Film was too dry when the masking tape was
removed.
- Too short flash times.
- Wrong process / cheap thinner.
- Poor sanding.
- Too low/too high surface temperature when
applying.
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Fix:
Remove finish from an area slightly larger than
the affected area and refinish.
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Next time:
- Use appropriate grits of sanding material
for the topcoats you are using.
- Seal to eliminate sandscratch swelling. Select
thinner or reducer suitable for existing shop
conditions.
- Use proper thinner and reducer for primer-surfacer.
- Do not apply coats of primer too heavily.
- Use compatible paint systems.
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Pinholing
Tiny holes or groups of holes in the finish,
or in putty or primer, usually the result of trapped
solvents, air or moisture.
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What went wrong:
- Improper surface cleaning or preparation.
(Moisture left on primer-surfacers will pass
through the wet topcoat to cause pinholing.)
- Contamination of air lines. (Moisture or
oil in airlines will enter paint while being
applied and cause pinholes when released during
the drying stage.)
- Wrong gun adjustment or technique. (If adjustments
or techniques result in application which is
too wet, or if the gun is held too close to
the surface, pinholes will occur when the air
or excessive solvent is released during dry.)
- Wrong thinner or reducer. (The use of a solvent
that is too fast for shop temperature tends
to make the refinisher spray too close to the
surface in order to get adequate flow. When
the solvent is too slow, it is trapped by subsequent
topcoats.)
- Improper drying. (Fanning a newly applied
finish can drive air into the surace or cause
a skin to form, both of which result in pinholing
when solvents retained in lower layers come
to the surface.)
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Fix:
Sand affected area down to smooth finish and
refinish.
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Next time:
- Thoroughly clean all areas to be painted.
Be sure surface is completely dry before applying
undercoats or topcoats.
- Drain and clean air pressure regulator daily
to remove trapped moisture and dirt. Air compressor
tank should also be drained daily.
- Use proper gun adjustments, technqiues, and
air pressure.
- Select the thinner or reducer that is suitable
for existing shop conditions. If the weather
is cold or humid, heat the spraybooth up.
- Allow sufficient flash and dry time. Do not
dry by fanning.
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Poor
hiding
When the primer or filler are visible through
the film of topcoat.
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What went wrong:
- Inadequate lighting in the spraybooth.
- Color was not well mixed/stirred.
- Too much thinner was used.
- Substrate's color was not correct.
- Insufficient film thickness.
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Fix:
Allow the finish to dry, then sand and respray.
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Next time:
- Use recommended thinner.
- Install good lighting equipment.
- Check gun setting.
- Mix/stir all colors/tintings thoroughly.
- Apply the correct quantity of paint (enough).
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Runs
Heavy application of sprayed material that fails
to adhere uniformly to the surface.
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What went wrong:
- Wrong thinner or reducer.
- Too much thinner or reducer.
- Lighting in the spraybooth is not accurate
and the painter is unable to apply correctly.
- Surface is contaminated by oil, grease, etc.
- Shop or surface too cold.
- Low air pressure (causing lack of atomization),
holding gun too close, or making too slow a
gun pass.
- Incorrect technique of application.
- Paint drops from the gun.
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Fix:
Wash off the affected area and let dry until
you can sand affected area to a smooth surface
and refinish. For solid colors and clearcoats
sanding and polishing is recommended. In the
case of a basecoat, refinishing after sanding
is necessary.
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Next time:
- Allow vehicle surface to warm up to at least
room temperature before attempting to refinish.
Try to maintain an appropriate shop temperature
for paint areas.
- Use proper gun adjustment, techniques, and
air pressure.
- Don't pile on finishes. Allow sufficient
flash off and drying time in between coats.
- Select proper thinner/reducer.
- Read and carefully follow label instructions.
Select the thinner and reducer that is suitable
for existing shop conditions.
- Install accurate lighting systems in the spray
booth.
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Sandscratch/swelling
Enlarged sandscratches caused by swelling action
of topcoat solvents.
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What went wrong:
- Improper surface cleaning or preparation.
(Use of too coarse sandpaper or omitting a sealer
in panel repairs greatly exaggerates swelling
caused by thinner penetration.)
- Improper thinner or reducer (especially a
slow-dry thinner or reducer when sealer has
been omitted.)
- Under-reduced or wrong thinner (too fast)
used in primer-surfacer causes "bridging" of
scratches.
- Primer not well dried before application of
color.
- Application of undercoat too heavy.
- Application of color when the original finish
is too sensitive to paint solvents used.
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Fix:
Sand affected area down to smooth surface and
apply appropriate sealer before refinishing.
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Next time:
- Use appropriate grits of sanding material
for the topcoats you are using.
- Seal to eliminate sandscratch swelling. Select
thinner or reducer suitable for existing shop
conditions.
- Use proper thinner and reducer for primer-surfacer.
- Do not apply coats of primer too heavily.
- Use compatible paint systems.
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Scratches
The topcoated glossy surface has lost its gloss
and has hair-fine lines/scratches overall.
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What went wrong:
- The problem is normally caused by frequent
use of car washing using washing machines.
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Fix:
A good valeting by machine using a good polish
without silicone. In severe cases, sand and
re-paint.
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Next time:
- Maintain and protect the topcoat of the vehicle
using a non-silicone containing polish or wax.
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Slow
drying
The paint takes too long before hardening.
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What went wrong:
Wrong activator (too little or too much).
- Heavy application.
- Thinner too slow/too cheap.
- Poor drying conditions: too humid weather,
unventilated.
- Insufficient flash off time between coats.
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Fix:
Place the vehicle in a ventilated/warm area.
The drying process may be accelerated with the
application of heat.
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Next time:
- Use recommended thinner.
- Apply recommended film thickness.
- Allow enough flash off time.
- Spraying and drying conditions could be improved.
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Water
spotting
General dulling of gloss in spots or masses of
spots.
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What went wrong:
- Water evaporating on finish before it is thoroughly
dry.
- Washing finish in bright sunlight.
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Fix:
Compound or polish with rubbing or polishing
compound. In severe cases, sand affected areas
and refinish.
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Next time:
- Do not apply water to fresh paint job and
try to keep newly-finished car out of rain.
Allow sufficient drying time before delivering
car to customer.
- Wash car in shade and wipe completely dry.
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Wrong
color
The color of the repaired part changes from the
originally applied on the car.
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What went wrong:
- The recommended formula was not used.
- Incorrect gun-setting and pressure.
- The original finish has yellowed due to weathering
exposure.
- Wrong application technique (especially applicable
to metallics).
- The color was not well stirred.
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Fix:
Sand and respray again the color after having
chosen the right formula or matched using the
color guide.
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Next time:
- Use the right formula.
- Stir colors thoroughly.
- Polish adjacent panels to check the color.
- If necessary follow the instructions of our
color guide to match the old finish color.
- Use the spraying technique which better adapts
to the required color matching.
- Make a test on a small panel before you start
painting the vehicle.
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